Community News: Timeline Discussion: Could Multiple Master Swords Exist?
Posted by on November 29, 2011
Most major Zelda games after A Link to the Past feature the Master Sword. This includes Ocarina of Time, Four Swords, the Oracle series, the Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword.
While Skyward Sword was supposed to serve as the “origin” story and explain how the sword was crafted, it generated even more questions than answers about the truth of the blade and made me wonder if this sword is the same one Link uses in later games.
So does a true Master Sword really exist or are there simply new swords in each title? Is the origin story from Skyward Sword the truth behind the sacred blade? Does any of this even matter?
This actually stirred from a friendly argument andy198 and I were having on another news post. Long story short:
Andy198: that seems different, not like zelda games at all
i have notices that the only 2 ever master swords that are >similar< (yes similare, not the same) are twilight princess and skyward sword well... looks are the same but the way it acts are 2 totally different swords
Flimsykitty: They ARE the same Master Sword. It all makes sense now (kind of).
The sages (mentioned in Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess) were said to forge the "sacred blade". This was the Goddess Sword. (As stated in the introduction) Skyward Sword explained how the sword the sages forged turned into the Master Sword.
It also explained the circumstances around the sword. At the end of the game, Fi says that Demise is sealed away in the blade. She also goes to sleep in the sword to protect the evil from breaking away and Impa stays in the past to make sure no one takes it.
The next game we can logically conclude occurs next is Ocarina of Time. Obviously, because of the evolution of all the races from Skyward Sword (and the fact that all the Skyloftians are now living in Hyrule (or Grooseland)) thousands of years have gone by. What happens to swords over time? They rust and start to break apart. We also need to take into consideration the graphics of the time (which can be said about any other 2D Zelda game as well). Twilight Princess was the last “big” Zelda game and because of that, the graphics are going to be a bit similar.
There’s no definite reason as to why the sword doesn’t function the same way in each game but…
Link in Skyward Sword was the original Link. He was the original Hero and Zelda was the Goddess reborn. Does that mean that every reincarnation of Link and Zelda have the same powers? Just because they are reincarnations of the original saviors, why is it that Zelda in Spirit Tracks couldn’t use the same power Zelda in Ocarina of Time could? That’s one theory…
My other theory is that the abilities of the sword are based on Fi. This is supported because when your sword levels up, Fi gains a new power as well. She’s defiantly tied to the sword (she couldn’t go to Link after his stuff was taken in the volcano part and actually thanks him for coming to her rescue). Because she’s “sleeping” to keep the seal on Demise, the powers the sword had are gone. Link can’t use dowsing in later games because she’s not there along side him (and awake). He can’t do the Skyward Strike because that was dependant on her tie to her creator (Hylia).
So it’s either Link’s fault for not being reincarnated with the exact same power as the Hero or all Fi’s fault that the swords don’t work the same way in different games or a combination of the two.
Those are just my theories...
Andy198: accually theres a destinction
Flimsykitty: What distinction? Link either acquires THE Master Sword or some other sword (Phantom Blade, ect.)
Andy198: if u look very cearfully, u will be able to see a difference and anyway the master has always been different, never the same, heres a hint, the blade
Flimsykitty: The Master Sword is different because it has a different owner in each game and a different purpose. In Ocarina of Time, Link was the Hero of Time. In Twilight Princess, he was the Hero of Twilight and in Wind Waker he was the Hero of the Winds. In Skyward Sword, the origin story Link was simply "The Hero" because he had control of the entire triforce. It has always been the "Bane of Evil's Blade". The difference in styles is because of the different art and graphics or because of the purpose it needs to fulfill.
Andy 198: 1, its the blade of evils bane-bane means destroyer...
2, in ocaina of time, look at the shape of the master sword, in wind waker, the handles are thinker, in skyward sword, the troforce symble on the blade is different to the one in twilight princess
3, the art graphics dont really mean much, if u compare zelda games like a link ti the pastand majoras mask, thats different art graphics...
… And flimsykitty feels like an idiot because she can’t think of any good comebacks…
There is a very loose connection between the swords in each game. No one directly comes out and says: Hey, Link! This is the same Master Sword that was used by the original Hero, Hero of Time, and the Hero of Twilight! The only hint we have to go off of is the name and as you can see above… The appearances of the swords vary as well.
Anyway, what do you think?
Comments
flimsykitty says:
Right now I'm using the timeline of SS -> OoT -> TP -> WW which wouldn't correlate with the swords at all because SS and OoT look very different.
andy198 says:
BountyHunterReturns says:
andy198 says:
martinDTanderson says:
For all the versions, you claim symbols of Power, Wisdom, and Courage.
Wind Waker and Skyward Sword, show us there is "The Master Sword" and "The True Master Sword", which is powered by blessings/music from the Goddesses.
Also I would have thought A Link to the Past would be the last known appearence of the Master Sword, and also the most discoloured.
andy198 says:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaosrules01/5142739767/
Amy122 says:
andy198 says:
1. different type of blade
2. different sizes
3. they are used for 2 totally different things/purposes as filmsykitty said...
flimsykitty says:
I agree with martinDTanderson. I had completely forgotten that Wind Waker had a situation similar to Skyward Sword where the sword had to be blessed to turn into the Master Sword again. Also remember in a Link to the Past: "And the Master Sword Sleeps Again... Forever!" That HAS to be the last use of the blade and therefore, the most exhausted design.
Although you claim all three powers of the triforce in each game, the only times Link has actually touched the tiforce to wish upon it was in SS and ALttP: The first and last games of the Master Sword story.
Remember, the Master Sword only appears in the games Ganon is in. If Demise's hatred is the reason for Ganon's existance, the same sword that sealed Demise is needed to "suck" him out of Ganon.
Plus, wouldn't it be more fun thinking you have a sleeping robotic spirit and the evil of all evil stuck in your sword? I was playing OoT 3D last night and thought that was so cool! ^^ It would only get better if Groose was in there too!@andy198: I didn't include the Oracle series because I felt that the sword appearance wasn't canon. Plus, that's a creation story of its own which... doesn't really fit in with these five. It's just like the sword in the first LoZ... it doesn't quite fit in with the others. Ooh! Ooh! Where did you get your sword from!? Do you have pictures!? I want one! 0v0
flimsykitty says:
I still need to blame the reason for the sword's powers not being the same on both Link and Fi. Link isn't the same hero in each game and therefore can only use a portion of the original Hero's power. And because Fi is asleep, all the special abilities we had in Skyward Sword like the Skyward Strike and dowsing are gone as well.
Also... http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2010...ly_restored.png
Amy122 says:
flimsykitty says:
I didn't think this
battlewould get so intense... lol, I'm pretty sure Nintendo could care less what sword Link has as long as they get their money. I don't believe they even have a full plan for the entire series.... I think they're just making it up as they go along and laughing at all the fanboys/fangirls who keep trying to decode something that's not even there...andy198 says:
LxZ says:
So I think there is two Master Swords one in SS and one in WW.
andy198 says:
there is more then 1 master sword, look at what they are used for and how they look, 2 totally different things
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